[vsnet-alert 11735] Re: some notes from professionals getting blocked

Mike Simonsen mikesimonsen at mindspring.com
Fri Dec 18 03:20:30 JST 2009

There is no conspiracy going on at vsnet. Taichi asked to move this
conversation to chat
because it was non-alert related discussion. We do the same thing.
Observers can't post observations to cvnet discussion and can't post
discussion to cvnet outburst. If they disregard the rules, I ban them.

Posting to email forums is not an inalienable right. It is subject to
the rules, guidelines and wishes of whoever owns the list.

Mike Simonsen

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:38 AM,  <contradixion at safe-mail.net> wrote:
> Now, not everyone subscribes to vsnet chat that subscribes to vsnet alert, so you may not have noticed that some of the emails sent to vsnet chat of late, formal emails, from professionals astronomers, are getting to chat, but disappearing on their way to alert, even though they were sent there also.
> None of my emails get through to alert, yet I am subscribed as I receive emails from it, but also if you look here you will see that two mails from Caltech failed to appear on alert to which they were also cc-ed :-
> http://ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp/pipermail/vsnet-chat/2009-December/date.html
> I know this because I, amongst diverse others, was part of the cc chain.
> In fact the only mail in the past few days from alert besides Kato Taichi-san's was one from Nicholson, in a supportive role probably (via an anti-me route), for we all know full well where Nicholson stands when it comes to renaming, as he has often renamed himself and claimed of himself what wasn't, thus his sympathies are no surprise.
> Who knows what isn't getting to alert that isn't cc-ed to chat.  I'm not sure whether Kato-san has been given back moderation of vsnet or not, but the message is clear here.  There are two emails cc-ed to chat that were cc-ed to alert that haven't got there, and I've asked and apparently the users have not unsubscribed, nor been notified of why, or even that, their posts haven't arrived at alert.  The second email even notes that the first one bounced.
> http://ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp/pipermail/vsnet-chat/2009-December/000438.html
> Generally the CV community doesn't always engender a good name for amateurs in the wider astronomical community, although it is often self-satisfied within it's own pro-am niches and cliques.  And just in case folk feel the whistle blowers are to blame, there would be no need for people to reach for whistles if something didn't blow in the first place.
> John

Mike Simonsen
Vice President
American Association of Variable Star Observers
49 Bay State Rd.
Cambridge, MA 02138

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