[vsnet-chat 7149] re Please make all correspondence to Nogami-san
Un Charitable
uncharitable at fsmail.net
Sat Jul 16 20:11:09 JST 2005
Kato Taichi commented :-
>Please make all correspondence to Nogami-san
>
> Although frequent message posters tend to be presonally asked frequently,
> I decided not to reply (or comment on) personal messages or questions.
> Public matters should be directed to the most relevant list (often vsnet-chat),
> and confidential matters should be to Nogami-san (nogami at
> kwasan.kyoto-u.ac.jp)
> who is responsible for EVERYTHING VSNET. I am simply a message poster and
> not the list owner, nor an omnipotent scientist.
Okay, if I wanted to be uncharitable, I could assume that this means that you are totally unaccountable for any vsnet behaviour, and therefore are free, as a subscriber, to forward to any list to any other list, and/or create any sublist, for any data on any subject, with only the hope that the moderator / list-owner may or may not restrict such behaviour, if they can be found to acknowledge emails?
That is, how is one to know that the number of personal emails you yourself have received, if relevant to vsnet such that you state that they should be addressed to the list owner, do not include complaints with respect to behaviour.
For example, people do not like to be autosubscribed. It started again, it was soon stopped.
Then a vnset circular service is reborn. People cannot be autosubscribed to it, but an announcement can be made advising them that they can be subscribed to it. This is acceptable to most, if probably not all.
In practice, a sample is sent, which on the face of it is something of an advertising exercise, albeit unsolicited (ie spam, and therefore in contravention of Japanese law as the subject heading did not note the unsolicited fact), and could be deemed acceptable, even innovative and not unwelcome, though a link to an archive would have sufficed just as well.
However, when numerous samples are forwarded to a list, then this becomes tantamount to stealth autosubscription, for indeed all vsnet-chat recepients become in effect vnset cv circular recipients, whereas one announce mail with multidinous links therein would have sufficed if it was simply just that, an announcement.
But that was if I wanted to be uncharitable, which in fact I do not want to be, so instead...
...I will interpret this as a precedent. A precedent that it is possible for any vsnet subscriber to set up their own list called vsnet-whatever, archive it on a webpage, forward details from it to other vsnet lists for people's interest, and generally do whatever they feel best in their own personal opinion.
For if one message poster can do so, why not all?
John
PS this email address will self destruct in five minutes (just in case unsubscription doesn't work), thus negating any further possibility of unsolicited correspondence from it. Thus ends the short and inillustrious life of vsnet-uncharitable. (and I'll reconnect to my dynamic ip run isp, coz I trust nothing no more).
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