Obs: Klaus Wenzel (KWe) Wenigumstadt (Germany) Instr.: 317/1500mm and 406/1829mm Newton e-mail: wenzel.qso at t-online.de all observation are visual Object Date UT mag Obs. Code SN 2011B 20110128.795 12.8 KWe SN 2010jl 20110128.938 14.4 KWe Klaus Wenzel