Obs: Klaus Wenzel (KWe) Wenigumstadt (Germany) Instr.: 406/1829mm Newton e-mail: wenzel.qso at t-online.de all observation are visual Object Date UT mag Obs. Code SN 2011B 20110208.785 13.7 KWe SN 2010jl 20100208.920 14.2 KWe Klaus Wenzel