Obs: Klaus Wenzel Wenigumstadt (Germany) Instr.: 317/1500mm Newton; 150/900mm Newton e-mail: wenzel.qso at t-online.de all observations are visual Object Date UT mag SN 2011fe 20110918.826 10.3 6 inch Newton OT_J184228.1+483742 20110918.840 13.1 Klaus Wenzel